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		<title>By: Journal du web &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Liens AJAX</title>
		<link>http://www.musingsfrommars.org/2006/06/howre-we-doing-now-ajax-browsers.html#comment-398</link>
		<dc:creator>Journal du web &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Liens AJAX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 02:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Web 2.0 &#187; Blog Archives &#187; &#8230; Web 2.0 companies don&#8217;t get it when</title>
		<link>http://www.musingsfrommars.org/2006/06/howre-we-doing-now-ajax-browsers.html#comment-397</link>
		<dc:creator>Web 2.0 &#187; Blog Archives &#187; &#8230; Web 2.0 companies don&#8217;t get it when</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 01:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] web 2.0 &#8230; An Amazing New Resource for Web 2.0 Site Developers&#8230; Mogopop: New Web 2.0 Publishing Tool for iPod. Interesting List of 10 Web-Based Operating Systems &#8230; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Kevin Hakman</title>
		<link>http://www.musingsfrommars.org/2006/06/howre-we-doing-now-ajax-browsers.html#comment-396</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Hakman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Oct 2006 15:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TIBCO today annouced:
+ TIBCO General Interface 3.2 Beta 2
+ available through open source BSD license
+ added support for Firefox 1.5 (with SVG charts too!)
+ New public DevCommunity @ www.tibco.com/devnet

TIBCO General Interface is specifically designed to enable you to create and deliver business productivity applications with speed and ease, leveraging more than 100 AJAX components and a set of visual tooling.  Since 2001 GI has targeted the business desktop.  IE and FX today are present on about 99% of business desktops.

Anyone wanting ot help bridge that last 1% for Safari and other browsers on the business desktop, please let us know through the developer community forums @ www.tibco.com/devnet/gi

TIBCO General Interface also ** does not have a server component **.  It's a 100% client-side library that you can use with any HTTP/s-enabled server of your choosing.

That pretty much covers the update.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TIBCO today annouced:<br />
+ TIBCO General Interface 3.2 Beta 2<br />
+ available through open source BSD license<br />
+ added support for Firefox 1.5 (with SVG charts too!)<br />
+ New public DevCommunity @ <a href="http://www.tibco.com/devnet" rel="nofollow">http://www.tibco.com/devnet</a></p>
<p>TIBCO General Interface is specifically designed to enable you to create and deliver business productivity applications with speed and ease, leveraging more than 100 AJAX components and a set of visual tooling.  Since 2001 GI has targeted the business desktop.  IE and FX today are present on about 99% of business desktops.</p>
<p>Anyone wanting ot help bridge that last 1% for Safari and other browsers on the business desktop, please let us know through the developer community forums @ <a href="http://www.tibco.com/devnet/gi" rel="nofollow">http://www.tibco.com/devnet/gi</a></p>
<p>TIBCO General Interface also ** does not have a server component **.  It&#8217;s a 100% client-side library that you can use with any HTTP/s-enabled server of your choosing.</p>
<p>That pretty much covers the update.</p>
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		<title>By: Dror&#8217;s Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Amazing Review of the Zapatec Suite</title>
		<link>http://www.musingsfrommars.org/2006/06/howre-we-doing-now-ajax-browsers.html#comment-395</link>
		<dc:creator>Dror&#8217;s Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Amazing Review of the Zapatec Suite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Sep 2006 05:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I was very excited last week to discover this review of AJAX toolkits/suites. For starters the Zapatec AJAX suite is the only commercial package to get an A out of all the packages that were reviewed. This is one of the most impressive commercial Ajax/DHTML suites I’ve encountered since starting this list. I downloaded the “lite” Zapatec suite and went through all of the demos with Firefox, Opera, and Safari on Mac OS X. I’m pleased to report that everything worked, and in fact worked in almost exactly the same way in each browser. There were a few anomalies that I noted–for example, the custom visual effects are “flickery” in Firefox, and the background color for the modal windows appears opaque black in Safari and Opera rather than translucent grey. There were a few others, but frankly the suite is so strong that I started noting every tiny discrepancy simply because there was so little deviation in appearance and functionality. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I was very excited last week to discover this review of AJAX toolkits/suites. For starters the Zapatec AJAX suite is the only commercial package to get an A out of all the packages that were reviewed. This is one of the most impressive commercial Ajax/DHTML suites I’ve encountered since starting this list. I downloaded the “lite” Zapatec suite and went through all of the demos with Firefox, Opera, and Safari on Mac OS X. I’m pleased to report that everything worked, and in fact worked in almost exactly the same way in each browser. There were a few anomalies that I noted–for example, the custom visual effects are “flickery” in Firefox, and the background color for the modal windows appears opaque black in Safari and Opera rather than translucent grey. There were a few others, but frankly the suite is so strong that I started noting every tiny discrepancy simply because there was so little deviation in appearance and functionality. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Leland</title>
		<link>http://www.musingsfrommars.org/2006/06/howre-we-doing-now-ajax-browsers.html#comment-394</link>
		<dc:creator>Leland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Sep 2006 18:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dror, thanks for pointing that out... there was a semicolon in the code where a quote should have been.  Now fixed.  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dror, thanks for pointing that out&#8230; there was a semicolon in the code where a quote should have been.  Now fixed.  <img src='http://musingsfrommars.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Dror</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dror</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Aug 2006 23:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice and comprehensive reviews. It looks like you forgot to put the grade for Zapatec in the table on top, which makes it a little confusing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice and comprehensive reviews. It looks like you forgot to put the grade for Zapatec in the table on top, which makes it a little confusing.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.musingsfrommars.org/2006/06/howre-we-doing-now-ajax-browsers.html#comment-392</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Aug 2006 10:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Corrections: echo2 is open source. GWT is closed source.</description>
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		<title>By: nate koechley</title>
		<link>http://www.musingsfrommars.org/2006/06/howre-we-doing-now-ajax-browsers.html#comment-391</link>
		<dc:creator>nate koechley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Aug 2006 01:16:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops, looks like I spoke too soon. In fact, the first installement of this series[1] reviewed YUI (and gave it an "A"). Sorry about jumping the gun.


[1] http://www.musingsfrommars.org/2006/03/ajax-dhtml-library-scorecard.html

Thanks,
Nate</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops, looks like I spoke too soon. In fact, the first installement of this series[1] reviewed YUI (and gave it an &#8220;A&#8221;). Sorry about jumping the gun.</p>
<p>[1] <a href="http://www.musingsfrommars.org/2006/03/ajax-dhtml-library-scorecard.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.musingsfrommars.org/2006/03/ajax-dhtml-library-scorecard.html</a></p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Nate</p>
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		<title>By: nate koechley</title>
		<link>http://www.musingsfrommars.org/2006/06/howre-we-doing-now-ajax-browsers.html#comment-390</link>
		<dc:creator>nate koechley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Aug 2006 22:28:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice round up, thanks for taking the time.

Any reason you didn't include YUI[1]? Infoworld and others consider it one of the "high-profile toolkits supported by the most stable organizations"[2], and included it as one of the six they recently reviewed.

Disclaimer: I'm a developer on the YUI team.

At Yahoo!, we're proud of our extensive browser support. We support all "A-Grade Browsers" as defined in our Grade Browser Support approach[3].

Thanks,
Nate

[1] http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/
[2] http://www.infoworld.com/article/06/07/31/31FEajax_1.html
[3a] http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/articles/gbs/gbs.html
[3b] http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/articles/gbs/gbs_browser-chart.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice round up, thanks for taking the time.</p>
<p>Any reason you didn&#8217;t include YUI[1]? Infoworld and others consider it one of the &#8220;high-profile toolkits supported by the most stable organizations&#8221;[2], and included it as one of the six they recently reviewed.</p>
<p>Disclaimer: I&#8217;m a developer on the YUI team.</p>
<p>At Yahoo!, we&#8217;re proud of our extensive browser support. We support all &#8220;A-Grade Browsers&#8221; as defined in our Grade Browser Support approach[3].</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Nate</p>
<p>[1] <a href="http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/" rel="nofollow">http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/</a><br />
[2] <a href="http://www.infoworld.com/article/06/07/31/31FEajax_1.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.infoworld.com/article/06/07/31/31FEajax_1.html</a><br />
[3a] <a href="http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/articles/gbs/gbs.html" rel="nofollow">http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/articles/gbs/gbs.html</a><br />
[3b] <a href="http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/articles/gbs/gbs_browser-chart.html" rel="nofollow">http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/articles/gbs/gbs_browser-chart.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: AjaxBlog.it &#187; DHTML/Ajax Browser Compatibility</title>
		<link>http://www.musingsfrommars.org/2006/06/howre-we-doing-now-ajax-browsers.html#comment-389</link>
		<dc:creator>AjaxBlog.it &#187; DHTML/Ajax Browser Compatibility</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jul 2006 07:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.musingsfrommars.org/?p=987#comment-389</guid>
		<description>[...] Il sito Musing from mars, ha aggiornato la sua lista delle compatibilità dei Browser rispetto ai piu&#8217; famosi framework Ajax. L&#8217;articolo è molto lungo e dettagliato, a differenza di molti altri che ho letto e che si basavano su poche informazioni;in alcuni casi addirittura di terze parti. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Il sito Musing from mars, ha aggiornato la sua lista delle compatibilità dei Browser rispetto ai piu&#8217; famosi framework Ajax. L&#8217;articolo è molto lungo e dettagliato, a differenza di molti altri che ho letto e che si basavano su poche informazioni;in alcuni casi addirittura di terze parti. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dylan Schiemann</title>
		<link>http://www.musingsfrommars.org/2006/06/howre-we-doing-now-ajax-browsers.html#comment-388</link>
		<dc:creator>Dylan Schiemann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jul 2006 00:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks again for the great review of Dojo.

One minor correction: while we love the Jot, and the Jot has been a huge supporter of Dojo and a huge reason why we are where we are today, Dojo was not actually first started at JotSpot: http://manual.dojotoolkit.org/WikiHome/DojoDotBook/BookHistory</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks again for the great review of Dojo.</p>
<p>One minor correction: while we love the Jot, and the Jot has been a huge supporter of Dojo and a huge reason why we are where we are today, Dojo was not actually first started at JotSpot: <a href="http://manual.dojotoolkit.org/WikiHome/DojoDotBook/BookHistory" rel="nofollow">http://manual.dojotoolkit.org/WikiHome/DojoDotBook/BookHistory</a></p>
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		<title>By: AJAX browser compatibility.</title>
		<link>http://www.musingsfrommars.org/2006/06/howre-we-doing-now-ajax-browsers.html#comment-387</link>
		<dc:creator>AJAX browser compatibility.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jul 2006 07:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] An Update on DHTML/Ajax Browser Compatibility via Agile Ajax. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] An Update on DHTML/Ajax Browser Compatibility via Agile Ajax. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Yeh</title>
		<link>http://www.musingsfrommars.org/2006/06/howre-we-doing-now-ajax-browsers.html#comment-386</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Yeh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jul 2006 09:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ZK supported Safari in recent releases.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ZK supported Safari in recent releases.</p>
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		<title>By: federico</title>
		<link>http://www.musingsfrommars.org/2006/06/howre-we-doing-now-ajax-browsers.html#comment-385</link>
		<dc:creator>federico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jul 2006 08:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Echo2 is LGPL, it is not commercial. Google Web Toolkit is free to use, but its core is proprietary</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Echo2 is LGPL, it is not commercial. Google Web Toolkit is free to use, but its core is proprietary</p>
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		<title>By: Stoicho</title>
		<link>http://www.musingsfrommars.org/2006/06/howre-we-doing-now-ajax-browsers.html#comment-384</link>
		<dc:creator>Stoicho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jul 2006 22:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leland thanks for the replay.
(It’s a little weird, but I will cross post too)

About browser support - I think that Morfik people should have a really serious thought about bringing Safari, and generally khtml support (nokia too pushes the KHTML engine for their s60 series mobile browsers). It will be a definite hit! Not including a product for not having your favorite browser supported is a fair choice - I can understand that! But doing so, and then including a product, which support only one (1) browser - IE, is an intersting decision.

I really hope, next time you make an update, you would think about dividing the tools in different categories.

And one note about OS X support: Did you know the WebOS AppsBuilder can target Mac OS X as a target server environment? :)

And sorry for double posting (first 2) - when I hit Submit comment, it leads me to 404 page. I did not knew if the comment was submited, so I posted another - same, and then wrote the whole thing in my blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leland thanks for the replay.<br />
(It’s a little weird, but I will cross post too)</p>
<p>About browser support - I think that Morfik people should have a really serious thought about bringing Safari, and generally khtml support (nokia too pushes the KHTML engine for their s60 series mobile browsers). It will be a definite hit! Not including a product for not having your favorite browser supported is a fair choice - I can understand that! But doing so, and then including a product, which support only one (1) browser - IE, is an intersting decision.</p>
<p>I really hope, next time you make an update, you would think about dividing the tools in different categories.</p>
<p>And one note about OS X support: Did you know the WebOS AppsBuilder can target Mac OS X as a target server environment? <img src='http://musingsfrommars.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>And sorry for double posting (first 2) - when I hit Submit comment, it leads me to 404 page. I did not knew if the comment was submited, so I posted another - same, and then wrote the whole thing in my blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Leland</title>
		<link>http://www.musingsfrommars.org/2006/06/howre-we-doing-now-ajax-browsers.html#comment-383</link>
		<dc:creator>Leland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jul 2006 00:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stoicho, I'll be happy to add Morfik WebOS AppsBuilder to the list.  You're correct that there are several different classes of products included in the list, and I'll think about possibly separating products that also include a RAD-type GUI builder from those that are "build your own" products.  The ratings are the same, however, in that they do not judge the quality of the GUI tools or the ease of server-side installation (if server components are involved), or ease of deployment, etc etc... in other words, the ratings here are not concerned with the products as software development tools per se.  Rather, the ratings judge the ability of the tool to deliver browser-neutral web applications, regardless of how those applications were built.

Most of the products--including Atlas and Tibco--include JavaScript libraries as part of their overall product design.  Even if they don't, as is the case with Echo 2, TK, and, apparently, Morfik, the product websites provide examples of Ajax applications or demos of Ajax controls that are the product of the libraries or app builder tools the company is selling.  The ratings reflect the degree to which those Ajax end-products work in a wide variety of browsers on Windows and non-Windows platforms.

As a heads-up, you should know that Morfik would not rate highly at the moment, since your primary "demo" is the Morfik website itself, which you advertise as being a product of Morfik's app builder, does not work at all in Safari on Mac OS X.  Apparently, this is caused by a rather lame user-agent detect script, which simply refuses to display the site to Safari users (or perhaps it just doesn't include Safari among the known "Ajax-capable" browsers).  I deduce this because when I have Safari masquerade as IE 6 on Windows, the site works (for the most part).  You might want to clean that up before I visit again to look at Morfik in more detail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stoicho, I&#8217;ll be happy to add Morfik WebOS AppsBuilder to the list.  You&#8217;re correct that there are several different classes of products included in the list, and I&#8217;ll think about possibly separating products that also include a RAD-type GUI builder from those that are &#8220;build your own&#8221; products.  The ratings are the same, however, in that they do not judge the quality of the GUI tools or the ease of server-side installation (if server components are involved), or ease of deployment, etc etc&#8230; in other words, the ratings here are not concerned with the products as software development tools per se.  Rather, the ratings judge the ability of the tool to deliver browser-neutral web applications, regardless of how those applications were built.</p>
<p>Most of the products&#8211;including Atlas and Tibco&#8211;include JavaScript libraries as part of their overall product design.  Even if they don&#8217;t, as is the case with Echo 2, TK, and, apparently, Morfik, the product websites provide examples of Ajax applications or demos of Ajax controls that are the product of the libraries or app builder tools the company is selling.  The ratings reflect the degree to which those Ajax end-products work in a wide variety of browsers on Windows and non-Windows platforms.</p>
<p>As a heads-up, you should know that Morfik would not rate highly at the moment, since your primary &#8220;demo&#8221; is the Morfik website itself, which you advertise as being a product of Morfik&#8217;s app builder, does not work at all in Safari on Mac OS X.  Apparently, this is caused by a rather lame user-agent detect script, which simply refuses to display the site to Safari users (or perhaps it just doesn&#8217;t include Safari among the known &#8220;Ajax-capable&#8221; browsers).  I deduce this because when I have Safari masquerade as IE 6 on Windows, the site works (for the most part).  You might want to clean that up before I visit again to look at Morfik in more detail.</p>
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		<title>By: RAD Ajax Tools And Java Script Libraires (about all those lists). at The Morfik Watch</title>
		<link>http://www.musingsfrommars.org/2006/06/howre-we-doing-now-ajax-browsers.html#comment-382</link>
		<dc:creator>RAD Ajax Tools And Java Script Libraires (about all those lists). at The Morfik Watch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 11:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] In a recent article Dion Hinchcliffe wrote about Which One [Ajax framework] Is Right For You?, today Musings from Mars puts another great post analyzing some Ajax libraries/frameworks. Both articles are great and detailed but there is one problem with them. They are comparing two different things: Ajax RAD IDE tools with  JavaScript libraries. I have nothing against those Java Script libraries - script.aculo.us, prototype, dojo, etc. Some are great, some are not, that&#8217;s not the point. The point is there should be at least 2 categories: one about RAD tools such as GI from Tibco, Atlas from MS and JST from Morfik, and second about libraries and frameworks! Because the two things are just not in the same category to be compared. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] In a recent article Dion Hinchcliffe wrote about Which One [Ajax framework] Is Right For You?, today Musings from Mars puts another great post analyzing some Ajax libraries/frameworks. Both articles are great and detailed but there is one problem with them. They are comparing two different things: Ajax RAD IDE tools with  JavaScript libraries. I have nothing against those Java Script libraries - script.aculo.us, prototype, dojo, etc. Some are great, some are not, that&#8217;s not the point. The point is there should be at least 2 categories: one about RAD tools such as GI from Tibco, Atlas from MS and JST from Morfik, and second about libraries and frameworks! Because the two things are just not in the same category to be compared. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Stoicho</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stoicho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 08:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any particular reason on why you have not included Morfik's WebOS AppsBuilder (morfik.com)? I will be very interested on your views on it!

And why you mess RAD tools with 4 kb .js libarires? I have nothing against small libraries - moo.fx is great, and others too. But there should be at least 2 categories: one about RAD tools such as GI from Tibco , Atlas from MS and JST from Morfik, and one about libraries/frameworks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any particular reason on why you have not included Morfik&#8217;s WebOS AppsBuilder (morfik.com)? I will be very interested on your views on it!</p>
<p>And why you mess RAD tools with 4 kb .js libarires? I have nothing against small libraries - moo.fx is great, and others too. But there should be at least 2 categories: one about RAD tools such as GI from Tibco , Atlas from MS and JST from Morfik, and one about libraries/frameworks!</p>
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		<title>By: Stoicho</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stoicho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 08:11:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any particular reason on why you have not included Morfik's WebOS AppsBuilder(morfik.com)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any particular reason on why you have not included Morfik&#8217;s WebOS AppsBuilder(morfik.com)?</p>
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